Re: [World] Hard to reach windows

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Date Thu, 08 May 2008 05:57:38 +1000

Thanks for the advice John, it is much appreciated. I have heard a lot about the Wagtail on this forum, I think I will invest in one.

John Kieser wrote:
Jonathan,
Don't feel bad about being cautious. In time you will learn what is safe, and you will get more nerve. I hate ladders and roof walking to this day, and I've been at it now for ten years. I may or may not have been too cautious a few times, but I'm still here and have no broken bones, so I must be doing something right. I have only had one fall, and that was a time when I didn't feel right about what I was doing. Thankfully, the fall was from my 5 foot step ladder, and the only thing broken was a garden lattice. As for hard to reach windows, I'd recommend getting a Wagtail squeegee. I bought one about 2 months ago, and my only regret is that I didn't buy one sooner. I love anything that gets me off of ladders and roofs, and the Wagtail does just that. It is also great for hard to get to windows in offices and storefronts. One storefront I have has heavy metal frame shelving, with plywood shelves. I used to have to move a bunch of merchandise and 2 shelves just to do 2 windows. It took me about 15 minutes start to finish. It now takes me about 2 minutes with my Wagtail. There is access room from the side of the shelves, but doing a proper job with a standard squeegee was impossible. Now I can do the job from the side without removing any shelves, saving me time and increasing my profit.
The Wagtail makes me more money, and makes me a better window cleaner.

On 5/5/08, *Jonathan & Tamarah Garrett* <addressis@removed <mailto:addressis@removed>> wrote:

    Hello all,

    I am still fairly new to Window Cleaning, hence I am still
    building up my equipment (have been learning heaps from everyone).

    I just did a house on Friday and there was one very difficult
    window to reach. The window was on the second story, above the
    garage so impossible to reach just by ladder. In my inexperience I
    was too scared to climb on top of the garage as the support beams
    did not look all that strong. Instead I placed the ladder onto the
    garage and from the ladder used the extension pole. Because of the
    angle the pole (extended to about 12 - 13 feet, close to
    horizontal) was extremely heavy and difficult to handle, hence the
    result was not a high quality clean.

    Am I just been ridiculous by not getting on top of the garage, or
    is there a better solution?

    Thanks for your help.

    Jonathan Garrett
    Diamond Window Cleaning
    Brisbane, Australia.

    Geoff Shaule wrote:


        Sarcasm aside Jeff, you may have never tried paying a
        commission instead of hourly, but if done correctly it can
        work to the benefit of both the Employer and Employee, many in
        this group and yours ( AUWC ) have done it with great success!

Quality and Safety are the two biggest challenges one will face.

The rate needs to be calculated carefully, and all of the
        things you mentioned need to be *_accurately_* measured.

Thanks

Geoffrey D. Shaule

        President

        G&S Window Washing, Inc.

        Direct Dial 248.593.8277

        Fax 248.435.9405

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We have had the best results by paying our guys 30% of the
        work they complete.
**So after a 30% direct labor rate, plus taxes, insurance,
        workers comp., marketing, trucks, gasoline, truck insurance,
        office support, squeegees, buckets, poles, rubbers, razors,
        soap, etc., etc., etc. what is the % left for your wage and
        profit?**

That way they can hustle or go at a slower pace. **Don't employees always sort of do that anyway? ** If they do not get excellent reviews when we call for quality
        checks, they go back and fix on their own time.
**What happens if they get hurt at an "own time" re-do? You
        may want to check the legality of that system.**

They come to the office and pick up a truck and paper work
        every day or every other day.

**So, they have no risk, no exposure, get 30% of every gig,
        AND get to take a truck home at night? **

**Are you hiring?**

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        *In a message dated 5/5/2008 3:59:15 P.M. Central Daylight
        Time, addressis@removed <mailto:addressis@removed> writes:*

           *We have had the best results by paying our guys 30% of the
        work
           they complete.  That way they can hustle or go at a slower
        pace.    If they do not get excellent reviews when we call for
        quality
           checks, they go back and fix on their own time.  They come
        to the
           office and pick up a truck and paper work every day or
        every other
           day.*



        
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